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Scooby-Doo at 50: Cast, creative team reflect on celebrity guests, origins of "Jinkies!"
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Ubiquitous
2019-09-12 21:58:19 UTC
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Fifty years ago, the world was introduced to a motley crew of crime-
solvers and their gawky, talking Great Dane.

On Sept. 13, 1969, CBS premiered animated comedy "Scooby-Doo, Where Are
You!" The first episode, "What a Night for a Knight," followed the so-
called Mystery Gang of Fred, Daphne, Velma, Shaggy and Scooby as they
investigated an archaeologist's disappearance and faced off against a
sentient suit of armor, launching indelible gags ("My glasses! I can't
see without them!") and catch phrases ("Zoinks!") along the way.

At the time, the show was an outgrowth of sorts of sci-fi adventure
series "Jonny Quest," which was also produced by the Hanna-Barbera
studio, but was canceled in 1965 after one season.
Daphne, left, Velma, Shaggy, Fred and Scooby in the original "Scooby-
Doo, Where Are You!," which premiered in 1969 and ran for three
seasons.

"Quest" was "full of guns and pretty hard-core, especially for its
day," says Tony Cervone, a producer on several direct-to-video
"Scooby-Doo!" movies and director of next year's CGI-animated "Scoob!"
But the studio still "thought, 'Hey, there's something to this
adventure aspect. Maybe we should tone it down a little bit, and play
with Scooby and Shaggy,' by having these comical, 'Tom and Jerry'-like
cartoon characters in the middle of a real-world mystery. It was pretty
groundbreaking for that time."

Voice actor Frank Welker was a then-struggling 22-year-old stand-up
comic in Los Angeles when he auditioned for "Scooby": first as the
title pooch and hippie Shaggy, before he was offered the role of the
ascot-wearing Fred, whom he still voices five decades later on
streaming service Boomerang's "Scooby-Doo and Guess Who?," which wraps
its first season Sept. 19.



"I really wanted Shaggy, because he was the comedy part," says Welker,
73. But producer Joseph Barbera "kept pushing me towards Fred. He said,
'You know, you're kind of the same age. Just do your own voice, and
think 'Jack Armstrong, the All-American Boy': You're the leader of the
gang and got a driver's license.' And that was pretty much it."

Now, actors typically record voice-overs alone, but the core "Scooby"
cast assembled in the recording booth, where they were encouraged to
ad-lib and play off each other, and even voiced different monsters from
week to week.

"Velma, who was (portrayed) by Nicole Jaffe back in the early days, was
the one who said, 'Jinkies!' And Joe was like, 'What was that?,'"
Welker remembers. "Then, the cast started trying to do our own little
things. Mine was, 'Hold the phone!,' which came in later years."
A new "Scooby-Doo: Where Are You!" DVD/Blu-ray box set of the complete,
41-episode series was released earlier this month.

Like any long-running franchise, "Scooby" has had its share of creative
lows throughout various TV incarnations and movies, including two
critically reviled live-action adventures released in the early 2000s.
Fans roundly rejected Cartoon Network's 2010 series "Mystery
Incorporated," which abandoned the procedural format for a serialized
story, and controversially paired Shaggy and Velma as secret lovers.

The show continues to evolve: "Scooby's talking a lot more (now) than
he ever did, and Daphne is more sarcastic and less innocent than when
other actresses have played her," says Grey Griffin, who has voiced the
character since 2000. But mostly, "they've really stuck with the
classic formula. If it's not broke, don't fix it."

Going back to the spirit of the original "Where Are You!," "Guess Who?"
brought in comedians including Wanda Sykes, Ricky Gervais and "Weird
Al" Yankovic to play themselves, sometimes with a villainous streak.

"Whenever celebrities guest star, everybody gets a big thrill out of
saying the 'meddling kids' line," Griffin says with a laugh. "They
always freak out when they get to say that. They kind of turn into 10-
year-old kids."

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Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2019-09-14 17:28:42 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Like any long-running franchise, "Scooby" has had its share of creative
lows throughout various TV incarnations and movies, including two
critically reviled live-action adventures released in the early 2000s.
Fans roundly rejected Cartoon Network's 2010 series "Mystery
Incorporated," which abandoned the procedural format for a serialized
story, and controversially paired Shaggy and Velma as secret lovers.
Was that reviled? What little I heard of it was very positive.
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anim8rfsk
2019-09-14 17:31:44 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Like any long-running franchise, "Scooby" has had its share of creative
lows throughout various TV incarnations and movies, including two
critically reviled live-action adventures released in the early 2000s.
Fans roundly rejected Cartoon Network's 2010 series "Mystery
Incorporated," which abandoned the procedural format for a serialized
story, and controversially paired Shaggy and Velma as secret lovers.
Was that reviled? What little I heard of it was very positive.
Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively accepted.
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A Friend
2019-09-14 18:08:00 UTC
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Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively accepted.
Are you talking abut the original (which was a pretty good kids' movie)
or the remake (which was neither)?

THE UNINVITED (the one from the '40s) was a huge hit in theaters and
still plays very well, IMHO.
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2019-09-14 18:25:26 UTC
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Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively accepted.
Are you talking abut the original (which was a pretty good kids' movie)
or the remake (which was neither)?
THE UNINVITED (the one from the '40s) was a huge hit in theaters and
still plays very well, IMHO.
Pretty sure we're still talking Scooby!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_13_Ghosts_of_Scooby-Doo
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A Friend
2019-09-14 19:05:57 UTC
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Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively accepted.
Are you talking abut the original (which was a pretty good kids' movie)
or the remake (which was neither)?
THE UNINVITED (the one from the '40s) was a huge hit in theaters and
still plays very well, IMHO.
Pretty sure we're still talking Scooby!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_13_Ghosts_of_Scooby-Doo
Sorry! 13 GHOSTS actually had "real" ghosts, so off I went. I've
never heard of this later SD series.

Of the cast members credited at that Wikipedia page, only one isn't yet
a ghost: Sue Blu, who's still on this side of the turf at 71.
anim8rfsk
2019-09-14 19:49:35 UTC
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Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively accepted.
Are you talking abut the original (which was a pretty good kids' movie)
or the remake (which was neither)?
THE UNINVITED (the one from the '40s) was a huge hit in theaters and
still plays very well, IMHO.
Pretty sure we're still talking Scooby!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_13_Ghosts_of_Scooby-Doo
That's the one1
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anim8rfsk
2019-09-14 19:46:55 UTC
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Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively accepted.
Are you talking abut the original (which was a pretty good kids' movie)
or the remake (which was neither)?
THE UNINVITED (the one from the '40s) was a huge hit in theaters and
still plays very well, IMHO.
Neither. There's a dreadful Scooby Doo variation called THE 13 GHOSTS OF
SCOOBY DOO where warlock Vincent Price and his annoying kid sidekick task the
team to recapture real ghosts that escaped from a magic chest, probably with
the help of the EPA.
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2019-09-14 20:45:23 UTC
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Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively accepted.
Are you talking abut the original (which was a pretty good kids' movie)
or the remake (which was neither)?
THE UNINVITED (the one from the '40s) was a huge hit in theaters and
still plays very well, IMHO.
Neither. There's a dreadful Scooby Doo variation called THE 13 GHOSTS OF
SCOOBY DOO where warlock Vincent Price and his annoying kid sidekick task the
team to recapture real ghosts that escaped from a magic chest, probably with
the help of the EPA.
Thanks for that. I'd never heard of that series before, but all the SD
stuff was at least a little bit after my time.
anim8rfsk
2019-09-14 22:30:05 UTC
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Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively accepted.
Are you talking abut the original (which was a pretty good kids' movie)
or the remake (which was neither)?
THE UNINVITED (the one from the '40s) was a huge hit in theaters and
still plays very well, IMHO.
Neither. There's a dreadful Scooby Doo variation called THE 13 GHOSTS OF
SCOOBY DOO where warlock Vincent Price and his annoying kid sidekick task the
team to recapture real ghosts that escaped from a magic chest, probably with
the help of the EPA.
Thanks for that. I'd never heard of that series before, but all the SD
stuff was at least a little bit after my time.
For some reason, a friend of mine, who went to work for Disney, was powering
through all the Scooby Doo incarnations, and I ended up seeing and knowing
more about it than is good for me ...
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Ubiquitous
2019-09-15 08:42:16 UTC
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Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively accepted.
Are you talking abut the original (which was a pretty good kids' movie)
or the remake (which was neither)?
THE UNINVITED (the one from the '40s) was a huge hit in theaters and
still plays very well, IMHO.
Neither. There's a dreadful Scooby Doo variation called THE 13 GHOSTS OF
SCOOBY DOO where warlock Vincent Price and his annoying kid sidekick task
the team to recapture real ghosts that escaped from a magic chest, probably
with the help of the EPA.
I think it was only Scooby, Shaggy, Scrappy, and a hispanic kid in this one.


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anim8rfsk
2019-09-15 20:27:13 UTC
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Post by anim8rfsk
Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively accepted.
Are you talking abut the original (which was a pretty good kids' movie)
or the remake (which was neither)?
THE UNINVITED (the one from the '40s) was a huge hit in theaters and
still plays very well, IMHO.
Neither. There's a dreadful Scooby Doo variation called THE 13 GHOSTS OF
SCOOBY DOO where warlock Vincent Price and his annoying kid sidekick task
the team to recapture real ghosts that escaped from a magic chest, probably
with the help of the EPA.
I think it was only Scooby, Shaggy, Scrappy, and a hispanic kid in this one.
13 Ghosts had Scooby, Scrappy, Shaggy, Daphne, Flim-Flam, Weerd, Bogel, and
Vincent Price.
Later installments reveal that Flim-Flam ended up in prison, and they agreed
never to speak of Scrappy again.
The 2019 Scooby-Doo! and the Curse of the 13th Ghost wraps up the series with
everybody aboard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooby-Doo!_and_the_Curse_of_the_13th_Ghost
From the director and writer of DC SUPER HERO GIRLS
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Ubiquitous
2019-09-15 22:32:31 UTC
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Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively accepted.
Are you talking abut the original (which was a pretty good kids' movie)
or the remake (which was neither)?
THE UNINVITED (the one from the '40s) was a huge hit in theaters and
still plays very well, IMHO.
Neither. There's a dreadful Scooby Doo variation called THE 13 GHOSTS OF
SCOOBY DOO where warlock Vincent Price and his annoying kid sidekick
task the team to recapture real ghosts that escaped from a magic chest,
probably with the help of the EPA.
I think it was only Scooby, Shaggy, Scrappy, and a hispanic kid in this one.
13 Ghosts had Scooby, Scrappy, Shaggy, Daphne, Flim-Flam, Weerd, Bogel, and
Vincent Price.
Later installments reveal that Flim-Flam ended up in prison, and they agreed
never to speak of Scrappy again.
The little boy went to jail? Oh my!

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watching Wile E. Coyote trying to catch Road Runner.
anim8rfsk
2019-09-15 22:49:44 UTC
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Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively
accepted.
Are you talking abut the original (which was a pretty good kids' movie)
or the remake (which was neither)?
THE UNINVITED (the one from the '40s) was a huge hit in theaters and
still plays very well, IMHO.
Neither. There's a dreadful Scooby Doo variation called THE 13 GHOSTS OF
SCOOBY DOO where warlock Vincent Price and his annoying kid sidekick
task the team to recapture real ghosts that escaped from a magic chest,
probably with the help of the EPA.
I think it was only Scooby, Shaggy, Scrappy, and a hispanic kid in this one.
13 Ghosts had Scooby, Scrappy, Shaggy, Daphne, Flim-Flam, Weerd, Bogel, and
Vincent Price.
Later installments reveal that Flim-Flam ended up in prison, and they agreed
never to speak of Scrappy again.
The little boy went to jail? Oh my!
Yeah, isn't that great?
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Ubiquitous
2019-09-16 08:32:24 UTC
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Nothing that uses real ghosts (like 13 Ghosts) has been positively accepted.
Are you talking abut the original (which was a pretty good kids' movie)
or the remake (which was neither)?
THE UNINVITED (the one from the '40s) was a huge hit in theaters and
still plays very well, IMHO.
Neither. There's a dreadful Scooby Doo variation called THE 13 GHOSTS OF
SCOOBY DOO where warlock Vincent Price and his annoying kid sidekick
task the team to recapture real ghosts that escaped from a magic chest,
probably with the help of the EPA.
I think it was only Scooby, Shaggy, Scrappy, and a hispanic kid in this one.
13 Ghosts had Scooby, Scrappy, Shaggy, Daphne, Flim-Flam, Weerd, Bogel,
and Vincent Price.
Later installments reveal that Flim-Flam ended up in prison, and they
agreed never to speak of Scrappy again.
The little boy went to jail? Oh my!
Yeah, isn't that great?
Not as great as if it had been Scrappy.


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Ubiquitous
2019-09-15 08:42:15 UTC
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Like any long-running franchise, "Scooby" has had its share of creative
lows throughout various TV incarnations and movies, including two
critically reviled live-action adventures released in the early 2000s.
Fans roundly rejected Cartoon Network's 2010 series "Mystery
Incorporated," which abandoned the procedural format for a serialized
story, and controversially paired Shaggy and Velma as secret lovers.
Was that reviled? What little I heard of it was very positive.
I remember the movies getting a tepid reception but I remmeber CN's
series being popular.

The only reviled franchise I remember involved Scrappy, and to some
extend, Scoobie Dumb and Scoobie Belle.

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