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[NEWS] Toy Story 4 teaser trailer released
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Your Name
2018-11-12 19:27:09 UTC
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From ComingSoon.net ...


The Toy Story 4 teaser trailer is here!
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Disney-Pixar has released the first official Toy Story 4 teaser
trailer and first look image! Check them out below along with
the official teaser poster and an official plot synopsis for
the new sequel.

Teaser Trailer:


Woody and the rest of the toys are back for an all-new adventure
in Toy Story 4, welcoming new friends to Bonnie's room,
including a reluctant new toy called Forky.

"Like most people, I assumed that 'Toy Story 3' was the end of
the story," said director Josh Cooley. "And it was the end of
Woody's story with Andy. But just like in life, every ending is
a new beginning. Woody now being in a new room, with new toys,
and a new kid, was something we have never seen before. The
questions of what that would be like became the beginning of an
entertaining story worth exploring."

But Forky insists that he is NOT a toy! An actual
spork-turned-craft-project, Forky is pretty sure that he doesn't
belong in Bonnie's room. Unfortunately, every time he tries to
get away, someone yanks him back into an adventure he'd rather
skip.

"The world of Toy Story is built upon the idea that everything
in the world has a purpose," said Cooley. "A toy's purpose is to
be there for its child. But what about toys that are made out of
other objects? Forky is a toy that Bonnie made out of a
disposable spork, so he's facing a crisis. He wants to fulfill
his purpose as a spork, but now has a new toy purpose thrust
upon him."

Filmmakers called on comedian Tony Hale to provide the voice of
Forky.

"It's a huge thrill to be part of the Toy Story family," he said.
"But it's going to take a while for it to really sink in."

Said Cooley, "When we thought up this character, Tony was the
first actor that came to mind and I'm thrilled he accepted.
Tony's performance as Forky is a comedy salad of confidence,
confusion, and empathy... served by hilarious spork."

How were filmmakers able to convince Hale to give voice to Forky?
"A utensil's existential crisis?" he asked. "I'm in!"

Joining Tony Hale in the upcoming film are returning cast members 
Tim Allen, Tom Hanks, Annie Potts, Patricia Arquette and Joan
Cusack.

Toy Story 4 ventures to U.S. theaters on June 21, 2019.


<https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/trailers/1007265-the-toy-story-4-teaser-trailer-is-here>
Wheel 2000
2018-11-21 04:25:45 UTC
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Thee is no reason for a fourth Toy Story. The third movie ended perfectly.
Your Name
2018-11-21 05:29:59 UTC
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Post by Wheel 2000
Thee is no reason for a fourth Toy Story. The third movie ended perfectly.
Watch the teaser trailer and you'll see they've obviously completely
run out of ideas anyway. :-(
j***@gmail.com
2018-11-21 20:58:38 UTC
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Post by Wheel 2000
Thee is no reason for a fourth Toy Story. The third movie ended perfectly.
Watch the teaser trailer and you'll see they've obviously completely
run out of ideas anyway. :-(
Disney is dying creatively. What was one of the most innovative names in animation? Now reduced to sequels and resetting all their movies in live action.
Paul S Person
2018-11-22 18:34:02 UTC
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Post by j***@gmail.com
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Post by Wheel 2000
Thee is no reason for a fourth Toy Story. The third movie ended perfectly.
Watch the teaser trailer and you'll see they've obviously completely
run out of ideas anyway. :-(
Disney is dying creatively. What was one of the most innovative names in animation? Now reduced to sequels and resetting all their movies in live action.
Seems to me we've heard that before.

And then ... along came /The Little Mermaid/.

So things might turn around, eventually.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Your Name
2018-11-23 01:01:31 UTC
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Post by Wheel 2000
Thee is no reason for a fourth Toy Story. The third movie ended perfectly.
Watch the teaser trailer and you'll see they've obviously completely
run out of ideas anyway. :-(
Disney is dying creatively. What was one of the most innovative names
in animation? Now reduced to sequels and resetting all their movies in
live action.
Seems to me we've heard that before.
And then ... along came /The Little Mermaid/.
So things might turn around, eventually.
Disney may have been "innovative" in terms of the realistic quality of
the animation, but the storylines and artwork of the earlier movies
were awful (including most of the so-called 'classics'!) - they were
always trying to be far too 'arty'. Disney's animated TV shows were
much better, and along with Hanna Barbera and Warner Bros, that was
were the real creativity was because they were simply trying to be
entertaining instead.
Paul S Person
2018-11-22 18:33:23 UTC
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Post by Wheel 2000
Thee is no reason for a fourth Toy Story. The third movie ended perfectly.
Watch the teaser trailer and you'll see they've obviously completely
run out of ideas anyway. :-(
A film based on whether or not a spork is a toy.
Oh, well.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
j***@gmail.com
2018-11-21 20:47:32 UTC
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Post by Wheel 2000
Thee is no reason for a fourth Toy Story. The third movie ended perfectly.
Yes Toy Story belongs on Celebrity Bucket Kickers.
Paul S Person
2018-11-22 18:32:33 UTC
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:25:45 -0800 (PST), Wheel 2000
Post by Wheel 2000
Thee is no reason for a fourth Toy Story. The third movie ended perfectly.
Of course there is:

to sell lots of tickets and DVDs and BDs and make lots of money
not to mention the stage musical, the live-action version, and the
merchandising

Lots of reasons, all of them starting with "$".
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Your Name
2018-11-22 19:12:57 UTC
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Post by Paul S Person
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:25:45 -0800 (PST), Wheel 2000
There is no reason for a fourth Toy Story. The third movie ended perfectly.
to sell lots of tickets and DVDs and BDs and make lots of money
not to mention the stage musical, the live-action version, and the
merchandising
Lots of reasons, all of them starting with "$".
If you believe the hype merchants, "nobody" buys DVD / Blu-Ray discs
any more, but that of course is at least partly nonsense. Although
sales of discs may be lower than they were, there are still lots of
people who prefer to have a physical product for their money.
Paul S Person
2018-11-23 18:30:21 UTC
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Post by Paul S Person
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:25:45 -0800 (PST), Wheel 2000
There is no reason for a fourth Toy Story. The third movie ended perfectly.
to sell lots of tickets and DVDs and BDs and make lots of money
not to mention the stage musical, the live-action version, and the
merchandising
Lots of reasons, all of them starting with "$".
If you believe the hype merchants, "nobody" buys DVD / Blu-Ray discs
any more, but that of course is at least partly nonsense. Although
sales of discs may be lower than they were, there are still lots of
people who prefer to have a physical product for their money.
Although my experience with streaming is very limited, I have drawn a
few conclusions:

1. Extensive research with iTunes SD downloads, sparked by their
generally poor quality (and, no, I am /not/ talking about resolution)
showed that the governing factor, quality-wise, is bits/second/pixel.

Thus, widescreen moves (2.35:1 or so) were less likely to be reduced
to what amounted to a slide show with soundtrack (at least, up to the
point the allowed amount of action had been reached) because they had
/fewer pixels/ and so a higher br/s/p. This makes file size a rough
approximation of quality.

2. An HD trailer was 1.5 times as large as an SD trailer.
Unfortunately, the HD trailer had 1.5 time as many pixels both
vertically /and/ horizontally, meaning that the HD trailer would have
to be 2.25 the size of the SD trailer to have the same br/s/p value,
ie, the same quality.

The conclusion here is that HD quality is, quite likely, inferior to
SD quality when streamed. One of my brothers expressed great
disappointment with streamed HD when he got it set up, and some BD
trailers explicitly state that a BD is the only way to get "true HD".

3. Not all streamers are the same. iTunes sucked, but Amazon does a
very good job pushing SD video over a 2.7MB DSL link. No need to
download, and network-related defects are few and far between.

Since I am set up for and happy with SD, I am a big DVD fan; indeed,
Red Box rentals have long since replaced trips to the theater. Were I
set up for HD, of course, BDs would no doubt be what I rented/bought.

There is also a cost to consider: streaming requires some sort of
device plus (unless the device is a computer plugged into the modem) a
local wifi network plus a modem (DSL or cable or whatever) plus a
monthly ISP fee.

Watching DVDs/BDs requires an appropriate TV set plus player. OK,
modern TV sets/players are also "devices", but earlier ones were not
and they show Red Box DVDs just fine, for a lot less than a theater.

And /that/, I suspect, is one reason DVDs and BDs are still being
rented and purchased.

This is /all/ IMHO, of course. YMMV.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Your Name
2018-11-24 02:36:31 UTC
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Post by Paul S Person
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:25:45 -0800 (PST), Wheel 2000
There is no reason for a fourth Toy Story. The third movie ended perfectly.
to sell lots of tickets and DVDs and BDs and make lots of money
not to mention the stage musical, the live-action version, and the
merchandising
Lots of reasons, all of them starting with "$".
If you believe the hype merchants, "nobody" buys DVD / Blu-Ray discs
any more, but that of course is at least partly nonsense. Although
sales of discs may be lower than they were, there are still lots of
people who prefer to have a physical product for their money.
Although my experience with streaming is very limited, I have drawn a
1. Extensive research with iTunes SD downloads, sparked by their
generally poor quality (and, no, I am /not/ talking about resolution)
showed that the governing factor, quality-wise, is bits/second/pixel.
Thus, widescreen moves (2.35:1 or so) were less likely to be reduced
to what amounted to a slide show with soundtrack (at least, up to the
point the allowed amount of action had been reached) because they had
/fewer pixels/ and so a higher br/s/p. This makes file size a rough
approximation of quality.
2. An HD trailer was 1.5 times as large as an SD trailer.
Unfortunately, the HD trailer had 1.5 time as many pixels both
vertically /and/ horizontally, meaning that the HD trailer would have
to be 2.25 the size of the SD trailer to have the same br/s/p value,
ie, the same quality.
The conclusion here is that HD quality is, quite likely, inferior to
SD quality when streamed. One of my brothers expressed great
disappointment with streamed HD when he got it set up, and some BD
trailers explicitly state that a BD is the only way to get "true HD".
3. Not all streamers are the same. iTunes sucked, but Amazon does a
very good job pushing SD video over a 2.7MB DSL link. No need to
download, and network-related defects are few and far between.
Streaming depends on various factors:

- speed of your in-house connection to the modem/router
(including possible inteferrance by walls, electronics, etc.)

- speed of your internet connection to the outside world
(including number of users on same exchange line / mobile tower)

- number and speed of servers your data travels through

- speed of the movie server
(including number of users at same time)

Streaming can also depend on your internet plan - those with a data
limit for example may find the speed suddenly drops when they pass that
limit.

Personally I rarely stream anything - other than short YouTube clips
and movie / game trailers, there's only been the second season of a TV
series because the morons put it on in a ridiculous timeslot. It's
easier to download it on the computer, put it on a USB stick, and then
play on the big TV which doesn't have an internet connection -
otherwise I'd have to keep moving the computer and using the wifi
connection instead of the ehternet cable.
Post by Paul S Person
Since I am set up for and happy with SD, I am a big DVD fan; indeed,
Red Box rentals have long since replaced trips to the theater. Were I
set up for HD, of course, BDs would no doubt be what I rented/bought.
There is also a cost to consider: streaming requires some sort of
device plus (unless the device is a computer plugged into the modem) a
local wifi network plus a modem (DSL or cable or whatever) plus a
monthly ISP fee.
Watching DVDs/BDs requires an appropriate TV set plus player. OK,
modern TV sets/players are also "devices", but earlier ones were not
and they show Red Box DVDs just fine, for a lot less than a theater.
And /that/, I suspect, is one reason DVDs and BDs are still being
rented and purchased.
This is /all/ IMHO, of course. YMMV.
The only time I bother with the cinema these days is on the rare
occasion I win free tickets.

I buy the DVDs and Blu-Ray discs for the years for TV shows or movies I
really like. It depends on the movie / show. Our DVD player is an el
cheapo old no-name brand that has problems playing new DVDs (probably
double-layer ones), so I usually end up having to watch those on the
computer which has a biggish display when sitting at the desk, but both
TVs are SD.

Other movies and TV shows I might want to watch are recorded on the Sky
TV set-top box to be watched at a later time.
Paul S Person
2018-11-24 18:29:51 UTC
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<snippo, amazed my dissing HD drew no response>
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Post by Paul S Person
3. Not all streamers are the same. iTunes sucked, but Amazon does a
very good job pushing SD video over a 2.7MB DSL link. No need to
download, and network-related defects are few and far between.
- speed of your in-house connection to the modem/router
(including possible inteferrance by walls, electronics, etc.)
- speed of your internet connection to the outside world
(including number of users on same exchange line / mobile tower)
- number and speed of servers your data travels through
- speed of the movie server
(including number of users at same time)
Streaming can also depend on your internet plan - those with a data
limit for example may find the speed suddenly drops when they pass that
limit.
Amazon does an excellent job (they actually require 0.99 MB for SD,
although how well /that/ works I have no idea) and my WiFi has never
been a problem for streaming movies.
Post by Your Name
Personally I rarely stream anything - other than short YouTube clips
and movie / game trailers, there's only been the second season of a TV
series because the morons put it on in a ridiculous timeslot. It's
easier to download it on the computer, put it on a USB stick, and then
play on the big TV which doesn't have an internet connection -
otherwise I'd have to keep moving the computer and using the wifi
connection instead of the ehternet cable.
I stream one film from Amazon a week for two weeks, then a Red Box DVD
(because I'll be able to drop it off the next day). The films from
Amazon are older films, some of them films that never reached Red Box,
some films that vanished from Red Box before I got to them, some films
from directors I find worth collecting but who are known to produce
duds from time to time, some older films that I missed, some older
films I no longer recall clearly enough to know if I want them on DVD
... a vast potpourri of stuff.

I used to stream into a laptop and then run the HDMI output through a
veritable Rube Goldberg of a conversion chain to S-Video/stereo, but,
more recently, I just stream to my Fire HD 6, which works surprisingly
well when it is placed a few inches away. I don't watch TV as such,
just use it to watch DVDs on.

<snippo>
Post by Your Name
The only time I bother with the cinema these days is on the rare
occasion I win free tickets.
I never win free tickets, mostly because I never participate in
activities that produce free stuff. But that's just me.
Post by Your Name
I buy the DVDs and Blu-Ray discs for the years for TV shows or movies I
really like. It depends on the movie / show. Our DVD player is an el
cheapo old no-name brand that has problems playing new DVDs (probably
double-layer ones), so I usually end up having to watch those on the
computer which has a biggish display when sitting at the desk, but both
TVs are SD.
Exactly. It is a matter of taste, of what the purchaser wants to see.

My DVD player has been showing signs of age, to the point where it
will not play some parts of a very few disks and has skips in a few
places on several more -- all of which disappear when played in the
computer, ie, when played on an optical drive that has not be used so
much. (This is quite different from discs that are /actually/ damaged:
they will not play on any device.)

Everything mechanical wears out eventually, and things that are used a
lot wear out even faster.

I had have a disc once that, on the DVD player, would not play the
second layer, but that DVD player also, with another disc, reacted to
the layer change by claiming that the disc had used an "unknown
opcode" and halting. I then bought a new DVD player: problem solved.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
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